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FeralMina opened this issue Aug 30, 2022 · 0 comments
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Chapter 5 ᏘᎪᎵᏯ #13

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FeralMina commented Aug 30, 2022

Some of these vocab words have cadence/tone markings that are different than I’m used to.

  1. On ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ (which?), I think the “do” might need a lengthening : marking, as in gadō: üsdi. The CED marks the “do” of “gado usdi”/“what?” as short with an underdot (https://www.cherokeedictionary.net/share/73000) but marks the “do” of “gado usdi”/“which?” as long with no underdot (https://www.cherokeedictionary.net/share/72999).
  2. Where did you get the markings for ᎯᎳ ᎢᏯᏂ? It doesn’t seem to me like that’s how I’m used to hearing the “iyani” part. When I hear Ed say it, like in Cherokee 1 Lesson 14 slide 9 (I think), I hear it as more like hị²la⁴ i²³yạ³ni.
  3. I believe ᎠᏂᏔᎵ should have the lengthening : symbol on the “ni”, not the “a”, and the accent on the “ta” should be removed. Check out Montgomery-Anderson on pages 149 and 177, where he write it as aniita¿li (I have to substitute a ¿ for the fancy glottal stop symbol. haha) So it’d be something like ani:ta¿li.
  4. I believe ᎠᏂᏦᎢ should also have the lengthening : symbol on the “ni”, not the “a”. Check out Montgomery-Anderson on page 177, where he write it as aniijo¿i. So it’d be something like ani:jo¿i.
  5. I believe ᎦᎵᏉᎩ needs another lengthening : on the first syllable, so that it reads gahl:gwo:gi (but with a fancy caron on the “gwo”).
  6. I think ᏅᎩᏁᎢ needs a lengthening : added on the first syllable “nv” so that it reads nv:hgi:në:¿i (but with a double accent on the “ne”). I understand that Montgomery-Andersen has the “nv” short, but that doesn’t sound right to me, so on this one I side with the CED/first language speaker Durbin.
  7. Edit: My mistake, I think ᎯᏍᎩᏁᎢ is fine.
  8. On ᏑᏓᎵᏁᎢ, I believe the caron on “su” needs to removed and left plain, and the accent on the “da” needs to be removed and left plain, so that it reads su:dali:në¿i (but with a double accent on the “ne”).
  9. I think that on ᎦᎵᏉᎩᏁᎢ, the first syllable needs a lengthening : symbol, and the caron on “gwo” needs to be removed and left plain, so that it reads gahl:gwo:gi:në:¿i (but with a double accent on the “ne”).

For these, I used my own ear, the CED, Montgomery-Anderson, the Grammar Guide, and Cherokee Narratives as references.

@FeralMina FeralMina changed the title Chapter 5 Chapter 5 ᏘᎪᎵᏯ Aug 30, 2022
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