Multi-Seller demo with GPT is not working anymore

[onetag-dev]

Hi,

I've noticed that this demo https://fledge-multi-seller-with-gpt.glitch.me/ is not working anymore: the 'FLEDGE' ad is not displayed and the FLEDGE auction does not happen. Is something changed? About two or three weeks ago everything worked as expected

[zhengweiwithoutthei]

Hi @onetag-dev, thank you for reporting the issue. We have confirmed the bug and implemented a fix. Please try again and inform us if the issue persists.

[onetag-dev]

Hi @zhengweiwithoutthei, thank you for the reply. The issue seems to persist because no FLEDGE auction happens on publisher page after joining the interest group.

[zhengweiwithoutthei]

Hi @onetag-dev, do you mind sending me an email at zhengwe@google.com with the GAM ad request ("https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?pvsid"=) thanks

[bmilekic]

Hi, we are experiencing a similar issue, including in our own tests with GAM/GPT. We register a component auction via googletag (similar to the multi seller with GPT demo), but we're very seldom able to see a PAAPI auction run. Is it possible that GAM is throttling these auctions currently? If that is the case, would it be possible to know how aggressive the throttling currently is and what is the timeline to remove it? Could individual GAM accounts override the throttle? Thanks!

Addendum: It's mentioned in the GAM docs here: https://support.google.com/admanager/answer/13627134 -- in the prompt at the top, that some form of throttling is going on and that by end of 2023, "up to 10%" of Chrome traffic will be enabled for PAAPI testing. Is this accurate?

[rdgordon-index]

Could individual GAM accounts override the throttle?

Indeed, I was going to suggest something similar -- much like you can disable / opt-out of PAAPI (https://support.google.com/admanager/answer/13627134), perhaps we can opt-in to the override? Or even for particular test line items?

[onetag-dev]

Hi @onetag-dev, do you mind sending me an email at zhengwe@google.com with the GAM ad request ("https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?pvsid"=) thanks

Hi @zhengweiwithoutthei, we just sent you an email with the GAM request,

Thanks

[zhengweiwithoutthei]

@onetag-dev Thanks.

We identified the issue seems to be specific to testing from EU. We are working on a fix and will update with the progress.

In terms of the percentage of traffic, yes, we slowly increase the percentage of traffic as mentioned in https://support.google.com/admanager/answer/13627134. We welcome the feedback on how we can improve this for everyone, and also ensure minimal impact to publishers.

[bmilekic]

In terms of the percentage of traffic, yes, we slowly increase the percentage of traffic as mentioned in https://support.google.com/admanager/answer/13627134. We welcome the feedback on how we can improve this for everyone, and also ensure minimal impact to publishers.

Hi, thanks for being open to feedback!

I think that if you gave publishers using GAM the option to allowlist their choice of component auction sellers, that would be a good start. That way if a publisher chooses to turn on a component auction seller in e.g., prebid, and that seller sets an auction config in GPT, and the publisher has allow listed the seller, that you run that seller's component auction without throttling. This would enable testing PAAPI demand from sellers publishers choose to work with during this phase of rollout.

You could do something even more sophisticated such as what @rdgordon-index has suggested above, enable explicit allow listing from a line item thus allowing publishers to turn off the throttling for specific component sellers and targeted subsets of their traffic, but I think even a simple external seller based allowlist would be a good start at this stage.

[rdgordon-index]

We identified the issue seems to be specific to testing from EU. We are working on a fix and will update with the progress.

I'm testing outside the EU -- is there something else that I can provide to assist in debugging?

You could do something even more sophisticated such as what @rdgordon-index has suggested above

I'd prefer configuration at the GAM network level (i.e. for the entire account) to avoid publishers needing to make any granular line-item level changes; my comment was more about being able to tweak lines during testing/debugging.

and the publisher has allow listed the seller, that you run that seller's component auction without throttling. This would enable testing PAAPI demand from sellers publishers choose to work with during this phase of rollout.

My preference would be to manage this on the seller side -- if the publisher isn't ready to leverage PA component auctions, the SSP exchange configuration should easily be able to manage that. In other words, give the publisher the least amount of PA-related GAM configuration to adjust and manage. That way, it becomes much simpler to scale out without having to repeatedly wait for the publisher to mange changes in GAM.

[JoelPM]

Given that GAM is throttling the PAAPI auction even when Chrome has PAAPI enabled, it would be great if there was a signal in the page that would indicate if GAM has enabled the PAAPI auction for this page view. Prebid.js is currently checking if Chrome supports PAAPI, but there is no way to know when GAM has disabled it, which leads to an overcount in reporting the number of available PAAPI requests.

[zhengweiwithoutthei]

Thank you for the feedback! We will be brainstorming how we can improve this for everyone, and also ensure minimal impact to publishers. In the meantime, Ad Manager has developed a mechanism for developers to be able to ensure that the Google Publisher Tag (GPT) runs a Protected Audience auction when conducting local testing. If you are interested, please sign up here.

[onetag-dev]

Thank you for the feedback! We will be brainstorming how we can improve this for everyone, and also ensure minimal impact to publishers. In the meantime, Ad Manager has developed a mechanism for developers to be able to ensure that the Google Publisher Tag (GPT) runs a Protected Audience auction when conducting local testing. If you are interested, please sign up here.

Hi @zhengweiwithoutthei, we found the issue seems to persist in EU even with the mechanism you provided

[zhengweiwithoutthei]

Hi @onetag-dev, can you give it another try?

[onetag-dev]

Hi @zhengweiwithoutthei, it seems it worked for some hours using the user agent mechanism, but now we got the same situation as before: I can see only interest groups load event, but no bid