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<p><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Soc.</label> There are two such inscriptions of his: on the left side
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="229"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229a"/> of each Hermes there is one in which the god says that he stands in the midst of the city or the township, while on the right side he says:<quote type="inscript"><l met="none">The memorial of Hipparchus: walk with just intent.</l></quote>There are many other fine inscriptions from his poems on other figures of Hermes, and this one in particular, on the Steiria <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">A town on the south-east coast of <placeName key="tgn,7002681">Attica</placeName>.</note> road, in which he says:
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229b"/><quote type="inscript"><l met="none">The memorial of Hipparchus: deceive not a friend.</l></quote>I therefore should never dare, I am sure, to deceive you, who are my friend, or disobey the great Hipparchus, after whose death the Athenians were for three years under the despotic rule of his brother Hippias, and you might have heard anyone of the earlier period say that it was only in these years that there was despotism in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>, <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">On this point the writer agrees with <bibl n="Thuc. 6.59">Thuc. 6.59</bibl>, who gives what is now the accepted story of Harmodius and Aristogeiton.</note> and that at all other times the Athenians lived very much as in the reign of Cronos. And the subtler sort of people say
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="229"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229a"/> of each Hermes there is one in which the god says that he stands in the midst of the city or the township, while on the right side he says: <quote type="inscript"><l met="none">The memorial of Hipparchus: walk with just intent.</l></quote> There are many other fine inscriptions from his poems on other figures of Hermes, and this one in particular, on the Steiria <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">A town on the south-east coast of <placeName key="tgn,7002681">Attica</placeName>.</note> road, in which he says:
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229b"/><quote type="inscript"><l met="none">The memorial of Hipparchus: deceive not a friend.</l></quote> I therefore should never dare, I am sure, to deceive you, who are my friend, or disobey the great Hipparchus, after whose death the Athenians were for three years under the despotic rule of his brother Hippias, and you might have heard anyone of the earlier period say that it was only in these years that there was despotism in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>, <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">On this point the writer agrees with <bibl n="Thuc. 6.59">Thuc. 6.59</bibl>, who gives what is now the accepted story of Harmodius and Aristogeiton.</note> and that at all other times the Athenians lived very much as in the reign of Cronos. And the subtler sort of people say
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229c"/> that Hipparchus’s death was due, not to the cause supposed by most—the disqualification of the assassin’s sister from bearing the basket, <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">In the Panathenaic procession.</note> for that is a silly motive—but because Harmodius had become the favorite of Aristogeiton and had been educated by him. Thus Aristogeiton also prided himself on educating people, and he regarded Hipparchus as a dangerous rival. And at that time, it is said, Harmodius
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="229d"/> happened to be himself in love with one of the handsome and well-born youths of the day; they do tell his name, but I cannot remember it. Well, for a while this youth admired both Harmodius and Aristogeiton as wise men, but afterwards, when he associated with Hipparchus, he despised them, and they were so overcome with the pain of this “disqualification” that they slew Hipparchus. <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">This curious version of the fall of the Pisistratid rulers (Hippias and Hipparchus) seeks to explain the conspiracy as due to a rivalry in a sort of pre-Socratic influence over young men which arose between the citizen Aristogiton and the ruler Hipparchus.</note></said></p>
<p><said who="#Friend"><label>Fr.</label> It would seem, then, Socrates, either that you do not regard me as your friend, or if you do, that you do not obey Hipparchus.
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<p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>I entered the grammar school of the teacher Dionysius, and saw there the young men who are accounted the most comely in form and of distinguished family, and their lovers. Now it chanced that two of the young people were disputing, but about what, I did not clearly overhear: it appeared, however, that they were disputing either about Anaxagoras <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">The Ionian philosopher who lived in friendship with Pericles at <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>.</note> or about Oenopides <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">A philosopher of <placeName key="tgn,7002670">Chios</placeName>, distinguished as a geometer and astronomer.</note>; at any rate, they appeared to be drawing circles,
<p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>I entered the grammar school of the teacher Dionysius, and saw there the young men who are accounted the most comely in form and of distinguished family, and their lovers. Now it chanced that two of the young people were disputing, but about what, I did not clearly overhear: it appeared, however, that they were disputing either about Anaxagoras <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">The Ionian philosopher who lived in friendship with Pericles at <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>.</note> or about Oenopides; <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">A philosopher of <placeName key="tgn,7002670">Chios</placeName>, distinguished as a geometer and astronomer.</note> at any rate, they appeared to be drawing circles,
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="132b"/> and they were imitating certain inclinations <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">i.e., the slopes of the contours of the earth, and of the apparent course of the sun(ecliptic).</note> with their arms, bending to it and taking it most earnestly. Then I—for I was sitting beside the lover of one of the pair—nudged him with my elbow and asked him what on earth the two youngsters were so earnest about, and I said: Is it then something great and fine, in which they are so earnestly immersed?</p>

<p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>Great and fine, indeed! he replied: why, these fellows are prating about the heavenly bodies, and babbling philosophy. <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="132c"/> Then I, surprised at his answer, said: Young man, do you consider philosophizing to be shameful? Else, why do you speak so sharply?</p>
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