SIDN's RDAP confuses expiration of publishing, and after possible reactivation, deletion for the deregistering

[janwillemstegink]

+1:
++title: Pending Delete notice
++description:
+++0: Privacy protected by registry
+2:
++description:
+++0: Administratie door: SIDN BV
+++1: Record maintained by: SIDN BV
lang: nl-NL
events:
+0:
++eventAction: registration
++eventDate: 2005-08-19T07:14:23Z
+1:
++eventAction: last changed
++eventDate: 2024-08-22T20:01:43Z
+2:
++eventAction: expiration
++eventDate: 2024-10-01T20:01:43Z
+3:
++eventAction: deletion
++eventDate: 2024-08-22T20:01:43Z
+4:
++eventAction: last update of RDAP database
++eventDate: 2024-09-28T15:41:22Z
status:
+0: pending delete

This is visible and explained in my rdap.hostingtool.nl:

[janwillemstegink]

https://webhostingtech.nl/us-eu-steps-for-whois/

Just a .com domain during the recovery grace period:

status:
+0: redemption period -> Note: correct information

events:
+0:
++eventAction: registration
++eventDate: 2022-09-20T09:52:07Z
+1:
++eventAction: expiration -> Note: no deletion information prescribed by ICANN
++eventDate: 2024-09-20T09:52:07Z
+2:
++eventAction: last changed
++eventDate: 2024-09-22T04:07:20Z
+3:
++eventAction: last update of RDAP database
++eventDate: 2024-09-26T13:03:54Z

---

Just a .com domain during the deletion phase:

status:
+0: client transfer prohibited
+1: pending delete -> Note: correct information

events:
+0:
++eventAction: registration
++eventDate: 2022-07-20T11:03:12Z
+1:
++eventAction: expiration -> Note: no deletion information prescribed by ICANN
++eventDate: 2024-07-20T11:03:12Z
+2:
++eventAction: last changed
++eventDate: 2024-09-21T11:03:10Z
+3:
++eventAction: last update of RDAP database
++eventDate: 2024-09-27T10:41:09Z

---

Just a .nl domain during the recovery grace and deletion period:

status:
+0: pending delete -> Note: missing 'redemption period'

events:
+0:
++eventAction: registration
++eventDate: 2023-09-13T04:31:05Z
+1:
++eventAction: last changed
++eventDate: 2024-09-12T02:31:06Z
+2:
++eventAction: expiration
++eventDate: 2024-10-22T02:31:06Z -> Note: inaccurate date/time of in fact scheduled deletion
+3:
++eventAction: deletion
++eventDate: 2024-09-12T02:31:05Z -> Note: inaccurate date/time of in fact expiration in the past
+4:
++eventAction: last update of RDAP database
++eventDate: 2024-10-14T15:39:07Z

---

Just a .fr domain during the recovery grace and deletion period:

status:
+0: client hold
+1: pending delete -> Note: correct information
+2: redemption period -> Note: correct information

events:
+0:
++eventAction: registration
++eventDate: 2017-08-16T01:11:38Z
+1:
++eventAction: expiration
++eventDate: 2024-08-16T01:11:38Z
+2:
++eventAction: last changed -> Note: missing event 'last update of RDAP database'
++eventDate: 2024-09-22T12:31:23.217123Z
+3:
++eventAction: deletion
++eventDate: 2024-09-22T12:31:23.217123Z -> Note: wrong impossible information

[janwillemstegink]

https://webhostingtech.nl/us-eu-steps-for-whois/

[janwillemstegink]

https://webhostingtech.nl/us-eu-steps-for-whois/

[janwillemstegink]

Example on 2024-10-15 16:45:
The cause of the miscommunication is a legacy problem in Whois.
'Date out of quarantine' called 'expiration_date' does not match globally.

Additional issues in Whois to address to the product owner from SIDN:

• With 00:00:00 is no publishing of an exact Zulu time;
• The holder name misses even for an active business use domain.

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In Python with print(d.text)

[admin@fallback public_html]$ python3.9 get_domain_data.py ambachtelijkijs.nl
Domain name: ambachtelijkijs.nl
Status: in quarantine

Last registrar:
InovaMedia
Kerkveld 2 A
5768AR MEIJEL
Netherlands

Creation Date: 2001-01-09

Updated Date: 2024-09-10

Date out of quarantine: 2024-10-20T07:30:17

Record maintained by: SIDN BV

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In Python with print(d)

[admin@fallback public_html]$ python3.9 get_domain_data.py ambachtelijkijs.nl
{
"domain_name": "ambachtelijkijs.nl",
"expiration_date": "2024-10-20 07:30:17",
"updated_date": "2024-09-10 00:00:00",
"creation_date": "2001-01-09 00:00:00",
"status": "in quarantine",
"registrar": "InovaMedia",
"registrar_address": "Kerkveld 2 A",
"registrar_postal_code": "5768AR",
"registrar_city": "MEIJEL",
"registrar_country": "Netherlands",
"dnssec": null
}

[janwillemstegink]

Using my domaincontrolregister.nl tool under design, some various ways by several registries are documented now.

grid_entity_domains.xlsx